Using Pizza Ovens for The Pizza Bible Recipes?


Hey!

Ive been reading through the Pizza Bible, and have noticed the recipes are geared towards Home ovens.

What do I do if I have the capabilities of baking with 390*C celcius? I am thinking of getting a G3 Ferrari oven. Do I ignore the recipes temp and cook at a higher temp (390*C) until cooked?

Or are these styles of pizza that are instructed to be cooked at 260*C best cooked at this temp?

I was in a commercial pizza chain today and also noticed they cook pizza at 235*C which I thought was quite low? The guy at the shop said it cooks for 4 minutes on a conveyer. This was typical take out style pizza. Therefore if chains only cook at around this temp would it be possible to get the same results in Home ovens at this temp?

The stores have gas ovens does this change the way t cooks compared to fan ovens, if so how?

I have little knowledge of any pizza other than Neapolitan!!

Thanks a lot for the help guys, and thanks to Tony for a sick book!!

Andy

Andy Scott
posted 2 months ago

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Have you ever made a pizza? What kind of oven do you have at home? Pizza is made in a variety of ovens at a variety of temperatures as you point out--wood fire, coal, gas, electric, commercial ovens & home, barbecues, etc. If you're buying a gadget like G3 Ferrari, then follow the instructions that come with it. If you using a home oven, there are a variety of methods like the recommendations in Pizza Bible. Good luck. Send pics.

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Maria .
posted 2 months ago

Yes I have. I’m asking about what temperatures to use as the recipes are geared towards Home ovens that work at significantly lower temperatures to wood, industrial ovens, or even the G3 Ferrari.

For example a New York style pizza from the book might work in a conventional home oven at 260*C because the recipe is geared towards that, so what do you do if you have the proper equipment?

There’s no set temperature to use on any oven for pizza when you read the instructions unless you’re cooking frozen...

That’s the issue I have, the book says 260*c for most recipes but taking into consideration Home ovens, I need to know what temp to cook at with the proper equipment such as a roccbox pizza oven or G3 Ferrari that can reach higher temperatures. It may still be a matter of cooking at 260*C with proper equipment I’m just looking for confirmation.

- Andy   2 months ago


I'm assuming those dedicated pizza ovens come with instructions. If not, I recommend contacting the manufacturer.

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Maria .
posted 2 months ago

I don’t think you understand my point...

- Andy   2 months ago

Not necessarily, if the g3 for example says 400*C you’re not going to put a frozen pizza in it at that temp unless you want it burnt on the outside and soggy inside.

These aren’t recommended cooking temperatures these are max temperatures.

- Andy   2 months ago

You didn't follow the links. If you did, you'd see that the recommendation is 400C for Neopolitan style for that particular G3 oven. It is specific. The Rocobox oven gives you a pizza recipe that includes the temperature setting.

- Maria   2 months ago


If I go to the Rocobox website for example there are several indicators for temperature to cook pizza. One recipe recommends 450C https://www.roccbox.com/us/recipe/nduja-green-chilli-black-olive-pizza-shallot-pickle/.

Looks like Ferrari recommends 400C. https://www.g3ferrari.net/en/delizia-p47

Beyond that, logic dictates that the higher the temp, the shorter the cook time.

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Maria .
posted 2 months ago


Andy,

Forget the G3. It's a gadget and not something I would consider a pizza oven. The Roccbox is not bad but you will need to, either, bake at a lower temperature or alter the PB recipes a bit. However, it is one thing to try to change a recipe to a new oven and another to just adjust the oven to a dough recipe. I'd go the easier route and control the oven's temps rather than alter a recipe right from the start. You can always adjust the dough recipes later to your desires to get the most out of your dough and oven.

But if you're into Neapolitan pizza, then the Roccbox and Tony's PB recipe (Page 187) for Neapolitan are a perfect match.

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Mike K.
posted 2 months ago

Hi Mike! Yes that’s the goal, I’m wanting to change the ovens temperature not the recipe, I’m just unsure of what temp to cook certain pizza styles at, such as New York style, it can be cooked in many different timings and temps. Bit confused.

I do agree with the G3 being more of a gadget, however if it reaches the correct temperatures for certain pizza styles what’s to say it won’t work?

That’s why I’m trying to see what people have to say about cooking with electric (g3 with broiler above) and gas, does it create two different cooks?

Thanks!

- Andy   2 months ago


Andy,

Couple of tips when it comes to a NY-style dough. NY pies are usually baked at temps around 525-550F give or take a few. The dough also contains a lower amount of water than te Master Dough. NY-style doughs hydration hover between 58-60%, compared to the MD of 65%. However, if you're into crisper crusts, then 65% is for you.

I don't think you'll have a lot of control over your pies with the G3 compared to the Roccbox. Every time you open the lid, you'll lose a tremendous amount of heat whereas the RB is more consistent. Gas also burns wet compared to electric, which can be a good thing for certain pizza styles such as NY.

But the bottom line is, no matter what oven you buy, you still have to tweak things around here and there. In other words, it's not really possible to give a 100% definite answer.

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Mike K.
posted 2 months ago


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